[Nekhbet]

... regardless, unstickying a topic because you got "a few requests" seems really out of place.

Oh well...

[Hackthorr]

The requests is what got me looking at it. It was then that I noticed most of the content is already in another topic that is already stickied which was made before this one and has more views. I don't see the point in having both stickied. As I said, I would not be against taking down the other one and putting this up, I'm just here to help out and make everything more organized.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Ciderhelm You did put a lot of writing into your guide, but some of your advice simply wasn't based on the most effective means of leveling. There are some fundamental flaws that you never addressed, the biggest one being Counterstrike stacking. You filtered that through your opinion of how you thought it wasn't intended. Regardless of your opinion, CS stacking should have been front and center, maybe even bolded, any place where you were giving advice on handling multiple mobs, not as a footnote that someone might see. You had another issue with Overreach, where a number of people reading your guide came out and spouted to these forums that Overreach was bad because you said so, which it was not. These seem like small things, except that people are playing 100+ hours using these guides. Having inefficient information takes hours, not minutes, of people's time. I requested your sticky be looked at to be removed. Not being an 80, stating you were canceling your account, and having a guide for leveling shouldn't have happened while there were better guides on the forums, and while the more verbose information was already in another sticky.

Ciderhelm, first off read the disclaimer for the guide. I put it there for this very reason. Aside from that, I do somewhat agree with you about the counterstrike stacking but I never said overreach was useless. I definitely said it was no longer nearly as useful as it was before but it could still be used. Hence why I left it in the advanced tactics section and specifically stated you will want to continue using it for leveling purposes (at least until you get strike and guard).

Counterstrike stacking was a footnote and perhaps it should have been included as a core element of my guide, but as it so blatantly seems to be an unintended effect (and because Funcom was and still is patching left and right) I didn't want to hinge my whole guide on it. It would have been very difficult for me had I done it that way and shortly after posting the guide Funcom applied a fix. I would have had to take a fine comb through the entire guide and re-do it mostly. I think the side note has been sufficient for most people.

All in all I really do not care anymore. I am no longer playing the game (at least for now) so I am not going to continue arguing with people over whether my guide is valid or not. Honestly, I think that speaks for itself and supporters of my guide have shown that. My real problem with the de-sticky was the fact that it was done right after I canceled and informed the readers of my guide that I had done so. That seems a bit fishy to me as so many other threads that contain a cancellation notification have been deleted or otherwise removed as well. Lets just say it doesn't sit very well with me or many of the people that like my guide. Goodbye thread and take care friends!

-Crow

[ocnitsa]

Originally Posted by Ciderhelm You did put a lot of writing into your guide, but some of your advice simply wasn't based on the most effective means of leveling. There are some fundamental flaws that you never addressed, the biggest one being Counterstrike stacking. You filtered that through your opinion of how you thought it wasn't intended. Regardless of your opinion, CS stacking should have been front and center, maybe even bolded, any place where you were giving advice on handling multiple mobs, not as a footnote that someone might see. You had another issue with Overreach, where a number of people reading your guide came out and spouted to these forums that Overreach was bad because you said so, which it was not. These seem like small things, except that people are playing 100+ hours using these guides. Having inefficient information takes hours, not minutes, of people's time. I requested your sticky be looked at to be removed. Not being an 80, stating you were canceling your account, and having a guide for leveling shouldn't have happened while there were better guides on the forums, and while the more verbose information was already in another sticky.

C'mon dude. Anyone who has complete tunnel vision and neglects all personal experience and other sources' information to concentrate on one particular guide for 100s of hours just doesn't really exist...the opinion that stacking multiple counts of a particular feat like Counterstrike is not intended is not something Crow pulled out of his butt, but something we've been talking about on the forum before. It seems kinda high school to be self-policing the forum stickies and requesting removals AND THEN publicly responding in this way.

[Ciderhelm]

Originally Posted by ocnitsa It seems kinda high school to be self-policing the forum stickies and requesting removals AND THEN publicly responding in this way.

I wrote two of the guides that are currently stickied. I had a reason to request they be stickied, and I had a reason to suggest that other stickies be removed if room needed to be made.

I responded to this thread because there was a suggestion that Funcom maliciously targeted a subscriber who canceled their account; that wasn't the case.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Ciderhelm I wrote two of the guides that are currently stickied. I had a reason to request they be stickied, and I had a reason to suggest that other stickies be removed if room needed to be made.

Oh it makes sense now. Seems to me that you are just trying to cannibalize any other hard work that has been done for this class and it's community by bringing said work's "quality" into question as a ruse. "Remove the other guides because they are inferior to mine" seems to more accurately describe what you are trying to accomplish.

[Ciderhelm]

Originally Posted by Crow Oh it makes sense now. Seems to me that you are just trying to cannibalize any other hard work that has been done for this class and it's community by bringing said work's "quality" into question as a ruse. "Remove the other guides because they are inferior to mine" seems to more accurately describe what you are trying to accomplish.

I didn't bring the quality into question. You can read my original post in Hackthorr's thread. I posted my comments on the quality of the thread in this topic alone, only after you suggested a malicious intent on Funcom's part, and my comments were accurate.

[Crow]

Are you saying Funcom hasn't deleted and removed threads because of cancellation discussion?

[Ciderhelm]

Originally Posted by Crow Are you saying Funcom hasn't deleted and removed threads because of cancellation discussion?

No, I'm saying that you've been misreading the situation. A volunteer moderator made the decision after reading several requests, including mine. I posted to make that clear, because you had made these posts:

I guess my guide is no longer worthy of a sticky because I have decided to cancel. Thanks Funcom.

... I'm guessing Funcom didn't want a popular guide nearing 60,000 views to show that it's writer (and strong supporter of the community) had canceled. This kind of seals the deal for me. **** Funcom. -Crow

[victorstillwater]

Honest newb question, because it seems to be one of the things mentioned in the comments on this thread.

What is Counterstrike Stacking, exactly? Is that like using Counterstrike twice or something?