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Old June 4th, 2008, 02:27 PM     Violetsaber is offline   #31
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I'd guess around a 13.
It's just my opinion, but running through that test, there's no way he scores that low.

We are talking about a guy that is undefeatable in combat, no woman can ever resist, who fights his way to ruling an entire kingdom. I'm not saying that's BAD by any streach of the imagination...just a little food for thought when people make rules for good and bad character design.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 02:46 PM     Bretholomew is offline   #32
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Who wants to be a Conan? (And wouldn't such be a single-player game... kinda like the stories?)
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Old June 4th, 2008, 03:57 PM     Zigkirby is offline   #33
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It's just my opinion, but running through that test, there's no way he scores that low.

We are talking about a guy that is undefeatable in combat, no woman can ever resist, who fights his way to ruling an entire kingdom. I'm not saying that's BAD by any streach of the imagination...just a little food for thought when people make rules for good and bad character design.
I took the test.

Conan's a 15-17, depending on how strict you want to take some of these things.

Also, your sig needs a quote from Vader. I suggest "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
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Old June 4th, 2008, 03:59 PM     Bretholomew is offline   #34
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I took the test.

Conan's a 15-17, depending on how strict you want to take some of these things.
You could have a negative score for anything depending on how strict you want to take some of those things.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 04:22 PM     Zigkirby is offline   #35
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You could have a negative score for anything depending on how strict you want to take some of those things.
Eh, in this case it's how Conan is described. Handsome to make a point, or if you take it as handsome to an extreme.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 04:32 PM     Railstay is offline   #36
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Eh, in this case it's how Conan is described. Handsome to make a point, or if you take it as handsome to an extreme.
Well, not a single woman can resist his charms and they throw themselves at him or kill each other for his affection, he kills dozens of people by himself and never ever loses in armed or hand to hand combat, is always stronger than everyone he meets save one character and oh yeah apparently even as a barbarian he knows how to read and decipher several ancient languages and glyphs.

And he goes from being the greatest merc, greatest thief and greatest pirate to the king of the most prosperous nation in the world.

I would say he's pretty high on the Mary Sue.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 04:34 PM     Violetsaber is offline   #37
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Interesting...I tried the test again, this time assuming that everyone in the Conan world has a furious temper and kills people in a murderous rage, and that Robert E. Howard is not promoting a way of life or character that he personally believes in, and that he is not writing about women that he thinks are attractive...and I still got a 49. My roommate tried it and scored Conan for a 56.

Apparently two people have two different ways of interpreting the books. (Which is perfectly fine ) Still, I get the feeling that many legendary heroes of myth (Luke Skywalker, Aragorn, Harry Potter, etc.) would score strikingly high on this scale. Most of the time a Mary Sue character is simply awful, but that one millionth of once percent who are written well come our greatest heroes. I suppose that's all I was trying to say.

Oh...and thanks for the Darth Vader idea. If I had my choice, it would be: "The power to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the Force!", followed immediately by: "They're no match for droidekas!!!"


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Old June 4th, 2008, 05:53 PM     Zigkirby is offline   #38
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Interesting...I tried the test again, this time assuming that everyone in the Conan world has a furious temper and kills people in a murderous rage, and that Robert E. Howard is not promoting a way of life or character that he personally believes in, and that he is not writing about women that he thinks are attractive...and I still got a 49. My roommate tried it and scored Conan for a 56.

Apparently two people have two different ways of interpreting the books. (Which is perfectly fine ) Still, I get the feeling that many legendary heroes of myth (Luke Skywalker, Aragorn, Harry Potter, etc.) would score strikingly high on this scale. Most of the time a Mary Sue character is simply awful, but that one millionth of once percent who are written well come our greatest heroes. I suppose that's all I was trying to say.

Oh...and thanks for the Darth Vader idea. If I had my choice, it would be: "The power to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the Force!", followed immediately by: "They're no match for droidekas!!!"

Keep in mind you have to skip all the sections except the anti-sue part and the RPG characters section.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 05:58 PM     Cyberqat is offline   #39
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16.

I raked up major points because my character is purposefully gorgeous. (Xotli deserves only the best as a vessel to possess, goddamnit!)
Gorgeous AND the host of a god, and you only got 16?

Either you missed a bunch of questions or the test is really messed up...

My very attractive very human CoH character who has so little telekenesis (without her hero armor) that she can only lift a match stick and has the skills of a professional magician scored something like 26.

I think that subjectivity of the test is showing up.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 06:00 PM     Cyberqat is offline   #40
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By the way. I was thinking on the way home tonight. based on my experience with the test, ANY movie principle character would probably score at least mid 20s.
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