[noelrobichaud]

Thanks, Bukkithedd and CrunchyNoodles. I appreciate the explanations. Mind you, anyone with a contemporary history of MMOs will have gone through exactly the same thing with every single game, including WoW.

I can point to a 100 such people that are from the Alpha of WoW and the same story as Alpha AoC players. Such is the accepted practice amongst all development companies, I shite you not!

I believe that we have a choice: Either "bend over and take it" or influence your "game buying" friends not to support games too early on. For instance Rift was the latest game to release with almost no issues. Surprising, I know!

WoW was really good in comparison to all other products out there at the time, but how many millions have left the game siting that the game has girth but no depth?

In the gaming industry as with any other, a wide birth is the only thing people see coming, they don't see or care about whatever shite is being pulled behind it.

What would help would be for everyone to suffer at the hands of MIB Agents the little Red Blinking Light of Forgeting Shite That Should Be Forgot and wipe WoW out of our brains and make a good dagnabbit game that doesn't have to appeal to investors immediately.

Originally Posted by CrunchyNoodles *looks at join date*

Hey that's no fair!

Originally Posted by CrunchyNoodles It's a great game, but an Enzo is a great car. Well, you see what can happen to an Enzo when you've got some turd in charge (*cough* Eddie Griffin *cough*)

OMG, I'm still laughing! =D

[koverop]

I pose a retort...

http://elderscrollsonline.com/

[Bukkithedd]

Originally Posted by koverop I pose a retort... http://elderscrollsonline.com/

Elder Scrolls Online is going to be so far away from the previous TES-games that it's not even funny. If you're expecting Oblivion or Skyrim with multiplayer, you will be SADLY mistaken, and HIGHLY disappointed.

You should read the this, and especially the parts comparing TES:O to WoW.

In fact, you should take a look at this entire article over at GameInformer, and pay attention to the screenshot.

[Azmith]

Originally Posted by Bukkithedd Elder Scrolls Online is going to be so far away from the previous TES-games that it's not even funny. If you're expecting Oblivion or Skyrim with multiplayer, you will be SADLY mistaken, and HIGHLY disappointed. You should read the this, and especially the parts comparing TES:O to WoW. In fact, you should take a look at this entire article over at GameInformer, and pay attention to the screenshot.

Is Zenimax that stupid though? I heard somebody saying that the combat will have collision detection and combos... Perhaps they were wrong?

[Bukkithedd]

Originally Posted by Azmith Is Zenimax that stupid though? I heard somebody saying that the combat will have collision detection and combos... Perhaps they were wrong?

No way to tell yet, but time will show. And the TES-fans WILL crucify Zenimax if they get it even the slightest bit wrong. Just like Bioware was over TOR.

[SerDaNoite]

Originally Posted by malakhi70 If it got really desperate AOC would communicate with adultfriendfinder. I think we would get mass subscribers then, seeing as the game has mature content.

hahahahaha

Man you should try standup commedy. I almost pissed my self laughthing

[SerDaNoite]

Originally Posted by Bukkithedd But we have one thing in common: We all love the game and the game's promise, and many of us have found that after playing AoC for so long, any other game just will not do, mostly due to the combat.

Nailed it! I find every other game boring now. AoC is like Tekken MMO version. Though I got some hope when I saw Elders Scroll Online on the pipeline.

[Mairenne]

Originally Posted by Samaell I have no faith in GW2 but I will probably try it. Will it have boobies? Will it have epic bloodshed? It might just end up being a generic game with XBOX controls and it will probably get boring faster then most games. They claim it will have massive sieges with hundreds vs hundreds but I call bullshit because Funcom cant even get 12vs12 to not lag.

Anet's already pulled off server wide PvP without lag just in their betas. No it doesn't have boobies. No it doesn't have the fatalities and bloodshed like AoC does. But the PvP in GW2 will be exactly like what PvP should have been here. Their PvE is even better than AoC's PvP in terms of skill needed, movement required, and teamwork to survive. And it's still in freaking beta.

GW2 will retain people well after the 3-6-9-12 month marks. GW1 is still thriving how many years later? People will play GW2 for years simply because there is no sub, even if that means they have to pay for expansions. Hell, you have to pay for expansions in AoC too. RoTGS wasn't free. Turan wasn't free. People are used to having to pay for expansions regardless of the game.

GW2 also has an up on AoC because Anet gives real incentives/perks/content for their anniversaries rather than just more pots and a cloak or other vanity gear you'd never wear or a companion that's useless and not even entertaining after the first 5 minutes of having it out.

I was in love with AoC for years. But Funcom ruined it for me. And I'm sure they ruined it for so many other people too. If they re-launched the game, it'd have to be what it was supposed to be - and I'm sorry, but no matter who's in control over there, I don't think Funcom can do that. They don't care anymore now with TSW just around the corner.

[SerDaNoite]

Originally Posted by Mairenne Anet's already pulled off server wide PvP without lag just in their betas. No it doesn't have boobies. No it doesn't have the fatalities and bloodshed like AoC does. But the PvP in GW2 will be exactly like what PvP should have been here. Their PvE is even better than AoC's PvP in terms of skill needed, movement required, and teamwork to survive. And it's still in freaking beta. GW2 will retain people well after the 3-6-9-12 month marks. GW1 is still thriving how many years later? People will play GW2 for years simply because there is no sub, even if that means they have to pay for expansions. Hell, you have to pay for expansions in AoC too. RoTGS wasn't free. Turan wasn't free. People are used to having to pay for expansions regardless of the game. GW2 also has an up on AoC because Anet gives real incentives/perks/content for their anniversaries rather than just more pots and a cloak or other vanity gear you'd never wear or a companion that's useless and not even entertaining after the first 5 minutes of having it out. I was in love with AoC for years. But Funcom ruined it for me. And I'm sure they ruined it for so many other people too. If they re-launched the game, it'd have to be what it was supposed to be - and I'm sorry, but no matter who's in control over there, I don't think Funcom can do that. They don't care anymore now with TSW just around the corner.

if GW2 just had AoC combat system...

but the same old tab-targeting will always make you feel like it is lacking something. Anyway, I also think it will be a great game.

[Talrain]

A relaunch of AoC would only be successful if Funcom sold the game to another game studio.