[Reddawg1]

Originally Posted by TekkaTakeda It may sound weird, but there is a difference between using a low DPS weapon/high DPS weapon and using a weapon slotted with Scything. I tested this with a guildie when I slotted for 60 2HE. My average swing during the HSV combo (at the time) was around 50, so my overall damage increased by about 250 for that combo's finisher. That does not include the white damage's increase. So try using a 60-100 2HE suit instead of swapping weapons. I think that how it works is that weapon base damage does not affect combo damage, but the modifiers that are on the weapon are not increasing base damage, but some sort of 'after' damage which is why it increases both white and combo damage.

So what your saying is that if you slot a lower dps wep with +scything or +fire dmg those things will affect our overrall combo and the actual dps of the weapon means nothing? This is quite interesting... I always choose weapons based on final dps score assuming that those + dmg modifiers are already added to the total dps of the weapon rather than being added on top of it. That really will make a difference in selecting which weapon to use. For instance, a 2he with dps of 130 slotted with say.. 3X +7 scything will actually deal more than 130 dps? Am I getting warm? I hope this is accurate...which of course then will piss me off that the dps shown on the weapon means exactly **** for HoX's.

[Orgoglio]

Originally Posted by Faustina Spitfire: Not bad scale to it. tics 5 times for 500 ish a tic. Pretty good if you don't mind the 5minute cooldown timer on it.

That is a HUGE increase from what it use to do. I had Spitfire 5/5 a few weeks ago, and it did around 100 a tic for 5 times. If it is really a 2500 damage dot now I will be amazed. Too bad all the specs I'm looking into now only put 1 point into it, may have to do some realigning.

[Uilamin]

Originally Posted by Faustina I'm aware of the clothed bug and did relog to fix it. You're figures are probably on weaker mobs. I am talking even lvl mobs here, lvl 80 in kenshata. On lvl 76 mobs the figures are much higher, but that's not an accurate test. All my figures are based on even level mobs, so strictly level 80. If you'd like i can take screenshots to show you the figures on hfb and btd on level 80's.

my figures were on raid mobs in Dragon's Lair I will check to see if I have screenshots else I will get some in the future.

[sxrezin]

Originally Posted by Uilamin my figures were on raid mobs in Dragon's Lair I will check to see if I have screenshots else I will get some in the future.

Considering damage is probably double in raids what it is anywhere else, that's probably something you should tell us before you post numbers.

[all-the-Raje]

And that's why tier 2 and tier 1 epic weapons have the same dps of any other blue level 80 weapon. It's not the dps of the weapon that makes it uber, its the stats (i.e. - which is why gems are good).

[Jasker]

Good information and thanks for sharing Faustina.

P.S. See what I did there? I said thanks w/o quoting the entire post.

[Faustina]

Under my signature, i have posted my new builds as of this patch. These are builds based around having really high +fire Magic. Work pretty well. Its basically a similar build to what i had before, just now btd does more damage and burning words makes for a nice combo with hfb.

[Balduvar]

Originally Posted by Toopuretodie Yea it adds dps but not to combo damage. So basically just white hits... None of our combos are based on fire damage magic except the BTD DoT. Like I said if nobody beleives that scything adds nothing to combo damage test your combos on a buddy using a level 5 2-hander and a level 80 2-hander.

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthr...43#post1093343

Proof that the "low level weapons don't change combo damage" argument is bullshit.

Also proves that at least the +damage from assassin stances affects combo damage. I'd be willing to bet it works the same for +damage gems as well. If you want to convince people otherwise, the burden of proof is on you.

[Nitrate]

Because of the wealth of knowledge here, and the few requests, this is stickied.

[Faustina]

Yay stickied. Since it is, what i'll do tomorrow is post direct combat log stats of each feat and combo with all fire gear, and no fire gear. This will give you all a direct number to work with, and you still wont be too impressed sadly.

I've also almost finished my 2h edge gear. Getting gems myself and guildies sending me them so its taking longer then if i had purchased them from the auction. I simply refuse to pay 10g a gem. Forget that.

Once my 2h set is done, over the coming week, i'll do the same and post exact figures showing every feat and combo with full gear, then without.

This will put any debates to rest with concrete math. ^^